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== | === Proposed Structure === | ||
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* | * *Phase 1* (current): Each of us asynchronously read through suggested resources or equivalent, and add proposed bullets of policies we see as relevant contingencies. | ||
** will - partial | |||
* | ** lucy - done w/ first pass | ||
* | ** bryan - not yet | ||
* | ** mako - done w/ first pass | ||
* | ** mika - not yet | ||
* | * Phase 2: Each of us take a pass through the assembled list, and flag any policies we see as needing discussion or which we don't think we want in place. | ||
* | * Phase 3: We schedule a synchronous session to go through flagged points to reach acceptable compromises. | ||
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[Perhaps we can sign our thoughts? An easy way to sign is to add ~ 4 times. [[User:Mika|Mika]] ([[User talk:Mika|talk]]) 22:23, 18 February 2024 (CET)] | |||
=== Proposed Policies === | |||
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[Related to all these, I prefer that we make rules only for financial decisions (direct (e.g., mortgage) or indirect (sublet)). Thoughts? [[User:Mika|Mika]] ([[User talk:Mika|talk]]) 22:23, 18 February 2024 (CET)] | [Related to all these, I prefer that we make rules only for financial decisions (direct (e.g., mortgage) or indirect (sublet)). Thoughts? [[User:Mika|Mika]] ([[User talk:Mika|talk]]) 22:23, 18 February 2024 (CET)] | ||
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*** Any member may propose an action to be taken on behalf of the entity by messaging the action to the full set of members on an approved communication channel. | *** Any member may propose an action to be taken on behalf of the entity by messaging the action to the full set of members on an approved communication channel. | ||
*** If nobody else contests the action within a week from receiving it, it is considered ratified. | *** If nobody else contests the action within a week from receiving it, it is considered ratified. | ||
*** If everyone affirms the action, it can be ratified sooner. | *** If everyone affirms the action, it can be ratified sooner. | ||
*** If anyone else contests the action it will be brought to a vote of the membership. | *** If anyone else contests the action it will be brought to a vote of the membership. | ||
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*** Perhaps, all we need to decide is how we make decisions; almost everything in the following could follow the rules in this section? [[User:Mika|Mika]] ([[User talk:Mika|talk]]) 22:23, 18 February 2024 (CET) | *** Perhaps, all we need to decide is how we make decisions; almost everything in the following could follow the rules in this section? [[User:Mika|Mika]] ([[User talk:Mika|talk]]) 22:23, 18 February 2024 (CET) | ||
*** Generally speaking, I prefer less rules, more trust in our ability to accommodate and be considerate to other people's needs, as we've done so far. Things will not always be perfect and not equal for all community members but achieving equity through legal rules seems dystopian to me. [[User:Mika|Mika]] ([[User talk:Mika|talk]]) 22:23, 18 February 2024 (CET) | *** Generally speaking, I prefer less rules, more trust in our ability to accommodate and be considerate to other people's needs, as we've done so far. Things will not always be perfect and not equal for all community members but achieving equity through legal rules seems dystopian to me. [[User:Mika|Mika]] ([[User talk:Mika|talk]]) 22:23, 18 February 2024 (CET) | ||
* Dispute resolution | * Dispute resolution | ||
* Grounds for expulsion | * Grounds for expulsion | ||
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** All actions taken on behalf of the entity will be kept durably by the designated secretary, and will be made available on request to any member. | ** All actions taken on behalf of the entity will be kept durably by the designated secretary, and will be made available on request to any member. | ||
** perhaps rotate this role? [[User:Mika|Mika]] ([[User talk:Mika|talk]]) 22:23, 18 February 2024 (CET) | ** perhaps rotate this role? [[User:Mika|Mika]] ([[User talk:Mika|talk]]) 22:23, 18 February 2024 (CET) | ||
* Renters | * Renters | ||
** the Entity may offer rooms for rent. | ** the Entity may offer rooms for rent. | ||
** It'd be good to discuss who rents the room (as we've done in the past)? [[User:Mika|Mika]] ([[User talk:Mika|talk]]) 22:23, 18 February 2024 (CET) | ** It'd be good to discuss who rents the room (as we've done in the past)? [[User:Mika|Mika]] ([[User talk:Mika|talk]]) 22:23, 18 February 2024 (CET) | ||
* Subleasing | * Subleasing | ||
** A member may propose to sub-lease their share of the LLC. | ** A member may propose to sub-lease their share of the LLC. | ||
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*** Normal process of addition? —<b>[[User:Benjamin Mako Hill|<font color="#C40099">m</font><font color="#600099">a</font><font color="#2D0399">k</font><font color="#362365">o</font>]][[User_talk:Benjamin Mako Hill|<font color="#000000">๛</font>]]</b> 20:05, 18 February 2024 (CET) | *** Normal process of addition? —<b>[[User:Benjamin Mako Hill|<font color="#C40099">m</font><font color="#600099">a</font><font color="#2D0399">k</font><font color="#362365">o</font>]][[User_talk:Benjamin Mako Hill|<font color="#000000">๛</font>]]</b> 20:05, 18 February 2024 (CET) | ||
** What about pets? | ** What about pets? | ||
*** Not allowed except with consensus by the group. —<b>[[User:Benjamin Mako Hill|<font color="#C40099">m</font><font color="#600099">a</font><font color="#2D0399">k</font><font color="#362365">o</font>]][[User_talk:Benjamin Mako Hill|<font color="#000000">๛</font>]]</b> 20:05, 18 February 2024 (CET) | *** Not allowed except with consensus by the group. —<b>[[User:Benjamin Mako Hill|<font color="#C40099">m</font><font color="#600099">a</font><font color="#2D0399">k</font><font color="#362365">o</font>]][[User_talk:Benjamin Mako Hill|<font color="#000000">๛</font>]]</b> 20:05, 18 | ||
February 2024 (CET) | |||
* Limits on sales by a member | * Limits on sales by a member | ||
** A member may give notice to the LLC of their intent to withdraw | ** A member may give notice to the LLC of their intent to withdraw | ||
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* Limits on use of the property | * Limits on use of the property | ||
** I'm not sure what this should be beyond what the house is zoned. I guess there are lots of ways people might use the house (e.g., running a hotel/Airbnb, etc) that I would want to restrict, but I feel like we could deal with that with the normal decision-making process. No? | ** I'm not sure what this should be beyond what the house is zoned. I guess there are lots of ways people might use the house (e.g., running a hotel/Airbnb, etc) that I would want to restrict, but I feel like we could deal with that with the normal decision-making process. No? | ||
* How do rights apply to new construction on property? ADU? | * How do rights apply to new construction on property? ADU? | ||
** Only possible with the normal decision-making process? —<b>[[User:Benjamin Mako Hill|<font color="#C40099">m</font><font color="#600099">a</font><font color="#2D0399">k</font><font color="#362365">o</font>]][[User_talk:Benjamin Mako Hill|<font color="#000000">๛</font>]]</b> 20:28, 18 February 2024 (CET) | ** Only possible with the normal decision-making process? —<b>[[User:Benjamin Mako Hill|<font color="#C40099">m</font><font color="#600099">a</font><font color="#2D0399">k</font><font color="#362365">o</font>]][[User_talk:Benjamin Mako Hill|<font color="#000000">๛</font>]]</b> 20:28, 18 February 2024 (CET) | ||
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** We split equally, no? —<b>[[User:Benjamin Mako Hill|<font color="#C40099">m</font><font color="#600099">a</font><font color="#2D0399">k</font><font color="#362365">o</font>]][[User_talk:Benjamin Mako Hill|<font color="#000000">๛</font>]]</b> 20:28, 18 February 2024 (CET) | ** We split equally, no? —<b>[[User:Benjamin Mako Hill|<font color="#C40099">m</font><font color="#600099">a</font><font color="#2D0399">k</font><font color="#362365">o</font>]][[User_talk:Benjamin Mako Hill|<font color="#000000">๛</font>]]</b> 20:28, 18 February 2024 (CET) | ||
** Sounds good to me [[User:Mika|Mika]] ([[User talk:Mika|talk]]) 22:23, 18 February 2024 (CET) | ** Sounds good to me [[User:Mika|Mika]] ([[User talk:Mika|talk]]) 22:23, 18 February 2024 (CET) | ||
* Do major repairs/replacements need member approval? How many? Costs? | * Do major repairs/replacements need member approval? How many? Costs? | ||
** Sure, why not? —<b>[[User:Benjamin Mako Hill|<font color="#C40099">m</font><font color="#600099">a</font><font color="#2D0399">k</font><font color="#362365">o</font>]][[User_talk:Benjamin Mako Hill|<font color="#000000">๛</font>]]</b> 20:28, 18 February 2024 (CET) | ** Sure, why not? —<b>[[User:Benjamin Mako Hill|<font color="#C40099">m</font><font color="#600099">a</font><font color="#2D0399">k</font><font color="#362365">o</font>]][[User_talk:Benjamin Mako Hill|<font color="#000000">๛</font>]]</b> 20:28, 18 February 2024 (CET) | ||
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** Split, no? —<b>[[User:Benjamin Mako Hill|<font color="#C40099">m</font><font color="#600099">a</font><font color="#2D0399">k</font><font color="#362365">o</font>]][[User_talk:Benjamin Mako Hill|<font color="#000000">๛</font>]]</b> 20:28, 18 February 2024 (CET) | ** Split, no? —<b>[[User:Benjamin Mako Hill|<font color="#C40099">m</font><font color="#600099">a</font><font color="#2D0399">k</font><font color="#362365">o</font>]][[User_talk:Benjamin Mako Hill|<font color="#000000">๛</font>]]</b> 20:28, 18 February 2024 (CET) | ||
** Sounds good. [[User:Mika|Mika]] ([[User talk:Mika|talk]]) 22:23, 18 February 2024 (CET) | ** Sounds good. [[User:Mika|Mika]] ([[User talk:Mika|talk]]) 22:23, 18 February 2024 (CET) | ||
* Worst case scenarios | * Worst case scenarios | ||
** Death of member | ** Death of member | ||
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*** No special policy needed | *** No special policy needed | ||
*** No insurance available? [[User:Mika|Mika]] ([[User talk:Mika|talk]]) 22:23, 18 February 2024 (CET) | *** No insurance available? [[User:Mika|Mika]] ([[User talk:Mika|talk]]) 22:23, 18 February 2024 (CET) | ||
** Zombie apocalypse | ** Zombie apocalypse | ||
*** No special policy needed | *** No special policy needed | ||
*** Consult with a zombie epidemiologist [[User:Mika|Mika]] ([[User talk:Mika|talk]]) 22:23, 18 February 2024 (CET) | *** Consult with a zombie epidemiologist [[User:Mika|Mika]] ([[User talk:Mika|talk]]) 22:23, 18 February 2024 (CET) | ||
== Resources == | === Resources === | ||
Condo Association handbook | Condo Association handbook | ||
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https://docplayer.net/17757078-River-edge-cohousing-llc-1-operating-agreement.html | https://docplayer.net/17757078-River-edge-cohousing-llc-1-operating-agreement.html | ||
== Misc / Not fully structured thoughts == | |||
=== Misc / Not fully structured thoughts === | |||
* Our friends on the east coast thought of a few unlikely scenarios that we may/may not need to think about. For example, if any of us decides to have kids, what kind of rights would the kids have? | * Our friends on the east coast thought of a few unlikely scenarios that we may/may not need to think about. For example, if any of us decides to have kids, what kind of rights would the kids have? |