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*easier to get a ride this way instead of starting outside Yosemite
*easier to get a ride this way instead of starting outside Yosemite


*cross from West to East not using Hemlock Crossing/Mammoth Trail but it requires hikers to continue ESE of Clover Meadow to go through Miller Crossing then Island Crossing and then up to Lower Falls after passing (to the East of Pond Lily Lake)But this route requires getting two permits, one that continues from Clover Meadow.  But you could actually have the second permit be the one that seeks to go to Whitney Portal or Horseshoe Meadows (your first permit then only needs to specify Clover Meadow as the end point).
*Yosemite > Isberg Pass > Reds Meadow > Iva Bell hot springs > JMT (either up to Purple Lake or straight down to VVR)
**One major advantage of the southern route is that it gets within 3.5 miles of Iva Bell Hot Springs (which is due West of Island Crossing which is on the route).  Another attraction if a rule change could be made (requiring a re-issued permit) is that hikers could ship resupplies to Minarets Packstation just about 1.5 miles SW of Clover Meadow and their hike would be lighter than having to go all the way to Red's Meadow to get resupplied there.
**[http://awhite4777.pythonanywhere.com/SierraMapperAlpha/default/mapper/n286/n070/r171/m043/m191/r195/r154 map!]
**Here is this route (just described) showing just going over Merced then Fernandez Pass. http://awhite4777.pythonanywhere.com/SierraMapperAlpha/default/mapper/n286/n324/n403/r177/xmxd/m191/m048
*"Isberg is the prettier route in my opinion. Mostly because it goes over Red Peak Pass in Yosemite."
**KC note: Compelling because hot springs, but curious why this person<ref>https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/johnmuirtrail/conversations/messages/49354</ref> was seeking a way to avoid Hemlock Crossing/Mammoth Trail?
 
*Yosemite > Fernandez Pass > Clover Meadow > Iva Bell hot springs  > JMT (either up to Purple Lake or straight down to VVR)
**But this route requires getting two permits, one that continues from Clover Meadow.  But you could actually have the second permit be the one that seeks to go to Whitney Portal or Horseshoe Meadows (your first permit then only needs to specify Clover Meadow as the end point).
**If you go over Fernandez Pass to Fernandez TH you will need to walk a few miles along the road to get to Clover Meadows and then a couple of more miles of road walking to the Mammoth Th that gets you back onto the route to Reds Meadow. It's that road walking in the front country that necessitates a new permit.
**[http://awhite4777.pythonanywhere.com/SierraMapperAlpha/default/mapper/n286/n324/n403/r177/xmxd/m191/m048 map!]


===Start North or East of Yosemite, enter Yosemite and join the JMT and follow it over Donohue Pass===
===Start North or East of Yosemite, enter Yosemite and join the JMT and follow it over Donohue Pass===

Revision as of 02:54, 19 February 2015

Plan A

(unless Plan B becomes Plan A because this part of Yosemite is touristy):

Plan B

  • source for most of this info: Adam White in this discussion
  • Jesse started at Red's Meadow and said if he had to do it over again would do it that way again.

Start in Yosemite, and exit over Fernandez or Isberg Passes

  • These permits will not be affected by the Donohue Pass quota
  • there may be some bushwhacking, trail finding, or challenging crossings
  • easier to get a ride this way instead of starting outside Yosemite
  • Yosemite > Isberg Pass > Reds Meadow > Iva Bell hot springs > JMT (either up to Purple Lake or straight down to VVR)
  • "Isberg is the prettier route in my opinion. Mostly because it goes over Red Peak Pass in Yosemite."
  • Yosemite > Fernandez Pass > Clover Meadow > Iva Bell hot springs > JMT (either up to Purple Lake or straight down to VVR)
    • But this route requires getting two permits, one that continues from Clover Meadow. But you could actually have the second permit be the one that seeks to go to Whitney Portal or Horseshoe Meadows (your first permit then only needs to specify Clover Meadow as the end point).
    • If you go over Fernandez Pass to Fernandez TH you will need to walk a few miles along the road to get to Clover Meadows and then a couple of more miles of road walking to the Mammoth Th that gets you back onto the route to Reds Meadow. It's that road walking in the front country that necessitates a new permit.
    • map!

Start North or East of Yosemite, enter Yosemite and join the JMT and follow it over Donohue Pass

  • permits will come from Inyo or Humboldt Toiyabe National Forests
  • You will still have impact on Lyell Canyon (where the quota is attempting to minimize impact), so this option might not sit well
  • Start at the Robinson Creek trailhead in the Hoover Wilderness
  • Here's the route; You'll start from the Robinson Creek trailhead at Twin Lakes, and ascend Mule and Burro Passes, then follow Matterhorn Canyon to Virginia Canyon, then descend Cold Canyon to Glen Aulin, and follow the Tuolumne River to Tuolumne Meadows (and the JMT). The total distance is about 40 miles from the trailhead to Tuolumne Meadows (compared to about 22 for the JMT). From Tuolumne Meadows, follow the well-worn trail to Mt. Whitney.
    • Permits are straightforward: obtain from Humboldt Toiyabe National Forest, here. Your trailhead is Robinson Creek, your first night could be Robinson Lakes (7.25 mi, 9,200 ft), Crown Lake (7.94 mi, 9,486 ft) or Matterhorn Canyon for permit purposes. You'll start outside of Inyo, so the Whitney exit quota won't apply to you. Feel free to exit at Whitney portal.
  • start at Green Creek trailhead or Virginia Lakes trailhead.
    • Routes and profiles are here and here; same permit form as Robinson Creek, but use the appropriate trailhead. Distances to Tuolumne Meadows are 24-26 miles. I've not hiked either of these, but I'm sure many on here have. I imagine there's good camping in Virginia Canyon.


Start South of Yosemite, join the JMT South of Yosemite

  • skip Donohue Pass and Yosemite, but fear not, all of Yosemite on the JMT is eminently dayhike-able. Come back some other time and do it.
  • Permits will either be from Inyo National Forest (if you enter from the east, which is what I would recommend) or Sierra National Forest (if you enter from the west).
  • Start at the Rush Creek Trailhead, hike up Donohue from the South
    • People have bad things to say about the Rush Creek trailhead. I get it. It's no South Lake trailhead. It's hot; there are dams, and cart tracks, and you have to climb. It could even be a little dusty. So what? You're climbing to Thousand Island Lake, a gem of the Sierra. Quit complaining.
    • Route is here; my approach would be to hike out of Rush Creek, and drop your stuff at the JMT junction (aka Rush Creek crossing, 9.43 miles in). Either hike up and down Donohue that day (add another 8 miles) packless, or wake up and do it (packless) the next morning.
    • Skip the ascent of Donohue if you want to save 8 miles, and don't care about getting visiting Donohue Pass. But this approach gives you an opportunity to visit Donohue Pass, while respecting the impact to Lyell Canyon (and getting you up your first major pass packless!).
    • Permits are from Inyo National Forest at recreation.gov--look for the Rush Creek Trailhead wilderness permits (AA05). The Whitney Exit quota will apply, which might make getting this a little more difficult than the Hoover options above. Alternatively, don't exit at Whitney--do it at Cottonwood Lakes or Cottonwood Pass, just a bit south of Whitney, and don't worry about the quota.


Tips

  • on filling out the permit for alternate exit from yosemite "I put down "Nearest legal campground halfway South to Lower Merced Pass Lake" for my first night campsite. I show Whitney Portal as the Exit Trailhead (but written alongside it (leave Yose at Isberg Pass) -- and for the question "I plan to exit over Donahue Pass, I chosed "NO" and entered Isberg Pass beneath it."