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;From a 10-6-2008 discussion on #openlibrary on irc.freenode.net: Reffer madness part I-II.  Prefaced by a blog post on the longest now.
 
;From a 10-6-2008 discussion on #openlibrary on irc.freenode.net: Reffer madness part I-II.  Prefaced by a blog post on the longest now.
  
== Introduction ==
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August 2008 at 7:20 am great work! ,
<sj>
 
: citations lack specificity.
 
: as a result they mislead, they conflict, they obfuscate
 
: they don't aggregate, they don't prioritize, they don't elaborate
 
: slach lanu.
 
: you have to track down the original to know how and in what sense and at what depth a source was cited and whether the source is relevant, a flimsy self-published rag, or not evey traceable.
 
: and who has time or access to do that?
 
  
mako suggests: draft a standard for identifying types of refs, advocate for interest, start using it somewhere high-profile
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doors.txt;10;15
 
 
sj suggests: blogging about this process, drawing in people who have though about this, defining it in a way that it can improve Wikipedia citation style and scalability of authority
 
 
 
<mako>
 
: all we can ask is that authors explain their perception of the reliability
 
: i don't want to cite things opaquely
 
: and i don't want others to do so as well
 
: one nice thing i want is a way to do it that is at least quasi-compatible with exciting style guidelines
 
:: <brassratgirl> exciting!
 
: so that i can argue in favor of doing it in things that i actually publish in other people journals
 
:: <greg-g> that seems like a must have
 
: <mako> bemasc (not here) suggested treating citations as kind of like nouns
 
 
 
== Actively attending ==
 
brassratgirl : Phoeb. E
 
mako        : B. M. Hill
 
jgay        : J.  Gay
 
_sj_        : SJ. Klein
 
solrize      : S. Olrize
 
stargirl    : H Wollach
 
 
 
== Papers cited ==
 
* Example : [http://pastebin.com/m18a601a6 from Andrew McCallum]
 
* [http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~sht25/papers/sigdial06.pdf An annotation scheme for citation function] by Simone Teufel, Advaith Siddharthan, Dan Tidhar (2006)
 
** John M. Ziman. 1968. '''Public Knowledge''': An Essay Concerning the Social Dimensions of Science. Cambridge University Press, Cambridge, UK.
 
**: the only book I ever borrowed from the Harvard Physics Library without returning [[User:Sj|Sj]]
 
** Ina Spiegel-Ruesing. 1977. ''Bibliometric and content analysis.''
 
Social Studies of Science, 7:97-113.
 
* [http://www.cs.umass.edu/~mwick/ Papers by Michael Wick]
 
  
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Frampton used it on his album Frampton Comes Alive! ,
  
 
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