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;From a 10-6-2008 discussion on #openlibrary on irc.freenode.net: Reffer madness part I-II | ;From a 10-6-2008 discussion on #openlibrary on irc.freenode.net: Reffer madness part I-II. | ||
Introduction: | |||
: citations lack specificity. | : citations lack specificity. | ||
: as a result they mislead, they conflict, they obfuscate | : as a result they mislead, they conflict, they obfuscate | ||
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sj suggests: blogging about this process, drawing in people who have though about this, defining it in a way that it can improve Wikipedia citation style and scalability of authority | sj suggests: blogging about this process, drawing in people who have though about this, defining it in a way that it can improve Wikipedia citation style and scalability of authority | ||
== Attending == | |||
: brassratgirl - Phoeb. E | |||
: solrize - S. Olrize | |||
: mako - B. M. Hill | |||
: jgay - J. Gay | |||
: stargirl - H Wollach | |||
: sj - SJ. Klein | |||
== | |||
== Papers cited == | == Papers cited == | ||
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=== classes of refs === | === classes of refs === | ||
implying the reference is viewed positively and as a source of accuracy/legitimacy: | |||
:'based (in some part) on', 'uses as positive reference/proof', 'uses as negative reference/proof' | |||
:'discounts/criticizes', 'promotes/supports', 'attempts to prove', 'attempts to disprove' | |||
:'cites as transmitter of fundamental cite' | |||
:: <sj> there's actually a lot of conflation of proximal reference with original source that goes on when one is lazy or pressed for time leading at times to the wrong people being recognized for discoveries when this was not their intent | |||
::: <jgay> _sj_, yeah, that is really common. | |||
:the anti-ref: 'presents a different and possibly incompatible perspective' | |||
: 'used as inspiration for this section' v. 'referred to for research but provided no inspiration for any section' | |||
anti-ref: | |||
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#poison cite - intended to reframe the real meaning of the cited work; cite doesn't really say what it's imputed to say | #poison cite - intended to reframe the real meaning of the cited work; cite doesn't really say what it's imputed to say | ||
#misleading cite - intended to confuse the course of a discussion; cite doesn't affect the argument the way it's implied to | #misleading cite - intended to confuse the course of a discussion; cite doesn't affect the argument the way it's implied to | ||
== asides == | == asides == | ||
=== on irc === | === on irc === | ||
For discussions like this we really need a tangents/talk channel and a get-shit-done channel. | For discussions like this we really need a tangents/talk channel and a get-shit-done channel. | ||
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:: ## tends to mean off-topic -jgay | :: ## tends to mean off-topic -jgay | ||
::: so what means more-on-topic? sj | ::: so what means more-on-topic? sj | ||
= I AM THE ANTICITES = | = I AM THE ANTICITES = | ||
''to come...'' | ''to come...'' |