Talk:Mika/Temp/WikiFCD

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Related Work

This paper from ISWC 2019 describes a knowledge graph that includes nutrient data. [1] Data: [2]

Wikiprojects to notify

What's the best to notify them? Mika (talk) 12:33, 20 January 2020 (EST)
I think there is a ping project template that we can use. Ping Project. Hweyl (talk) 19:51, 21 January 2020 (CET)
Great! Is the plan to say that we'll build this in a way that'd be easy to be incorporated into WikiData if they choose to do so in the future? Mika (talk) 22:17, 21 January 2020 (CET)
Draft text: Greetings members of WikiProject Food! We'd like to let you know about a complementary set of work we are planing related to food composition data. We are planing to create a Wikibase just for food composition data. To support this work we are proposing a Grant. We invite your review of the description of the project so we can learn of any feedback you may be willing to share with us.

People to review

Gene Wiki

About WD

  • draft response
  • Thank you for the feedback! We have been thinking about this for a while as we'd initially planned to do this in Wikidata. Knowing how variable the types and depths of information are in FCDs, it is possible that we will include data that may never be appropriate for Wikidata. We decided that it'd make sense to build a Wikibase where we can hold all the details.

Example datasets may look like this FAO data on detailed information on phytate or more standard data which includes aggregate phytate data. And this is just one nutrient; there are many more nutrient data as well as meta data. We believe that it is important have these discussions in WD. We also feel that the discussion on WD and this Wikibase database could develop simultaneously.

Our approach includes the creation of ShEx schemas Wikidata:WikiProject Schemas we will publish these schemas in Wikidata's E namespace for entity schemas. This way the data models that we are discussing could also be shared and discussed on Wikidata. Our approach is to prepare data in a Wikibase and then help coordinate getting the data into Wikidata once the Wikidata community has built consensus on how much nutrient data will be appropriate for Wikidata.

Response to other project

Happy to clarify these points!
We want to emphasize that this project aims to compile all the databases that are available on the Internet into one place, including ones you mentioned, so that users can pull necessary data more easily. Currently, if a place that lacks reliable nutritional databases, it takes an enormous amount of work to figure out which existing databases are appropriate to use for their setting. They seek databases from different sources, download them, and merge data that vary substantially in its content, formats, and structure. In nutritional research, it is currently very difficult to borrow or compare data from all databases that are available on the Internet because of the diversity of formats and content organization. Our hope is that this Wikibase instance will provide a way to standardize all the databases.
I believe the scopes of OFF and our Wikibase data are distinct and we do not plan to be a superset of OFF.
Also, great point about the plan to maintain these databases.