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=== Gear ===
=== Gear ===
*packs
*[[JMT/gear/aaron|Aaron's gear list]]
**[http://zpacks.com/backpacks/arc_blast.shtml Zpacks ArcBlast]
*[[JMT/gear/krystle|Krystle's gear list]]
***30 lb weight limit
***$295 + extras
***Krystle ordered 5/15/15 (expected to arrive mid/late June):
****Volume: 52 Liters - it was this or 60, close call, both will fit a standard bear can, I thought 60 might be a bit too bulky for me
****Color: All Army Green w/ Black accents - was tempted by orange and indigo but was swayed by green being a good stashing color
****Torso Height: Shortest (18 inches) - as per measurements & email to Zpacks
****Belt Length: Small (26 inches and up) - current pack measures 22", get lumbar pad if too big
****Shoulder Pouch
****Key Pocket (.2 oz)
****Ice Axe Loops (Both Sides) (.1 oz) - for future mountaineering adventures
****Trekking Pole Holders, One Side (.2 oz)
****Shock Cord Lashing (.5 oz) - to compress for use as day pack
**Aaron got a 60L, grey, 19" with two side pockets, shock cord lashing, and a key pocket.
**[http://andrewskurka.com/ Skurka] recommended [http://www.ula-equipment.com/product_p/circuit.htm ULA Circuit]
***30 lb weight limit
***$225 including extras
*bear cans (rent?)
**[http://www.nps.gov/yose/planyourvisit/bearcanrentals.htm yosemite rental]
*shoes
**main shoes (vivos? minimalist?)
***Krystle ordered [http://www.amazon.com/Altra-Womens-Superior-1-5-Running/dp/B00F36Y930 Altra Superior 1.5] on 5/14
****Joe recommended - many people used them on JMT & PCT, zero drop but thicker sole than Vivos, better for rocky Sierras terrain
****Someone somewhere on the Internet said Superior dries more quickly than Lone Peak, but I did not confirm; these seem meshy and quick drying though.
****Superior 2.0 is more expensive and looks so blocky and I have skinny feet so
****I love the velcro in the back for gaiters
**camp shoes (flip flops? xeros?)
***also for stream crossings
*tent (note: apply additional waterproofing)
**Big Agnes Jack Rabbit SL2
***Weight: 4 lbs 2.7 oz / 66.7 oz ([http://www.backpackgeartest.org/reviews/Shelters/Tents/Big%20Agnes%20Jack%20Rabbit%20SL2/Test%20Report%20by%20Ray%20Estrella/ source])
****Could save a little weight by using my titanium stakes, how many stakes does this tent actually need? Come with 10 that weigh 5.1 oz total, my 6 weigh 1.3 oz
***removable rain fly for stargazing (though this can easily be arranged outside of the tent as well)
***freestanding
**[http://sixmoondesigns.com/tents/outfitter.html Six Moon Designs Lunar Duo Outfitter]
***Weight: 3 lbs 10.3 oz / 57 oz
***more spacious (floor space 34 ft^2)
*tarp/groundcloth/footprint
**[http://sixmoondesigns.com/tents/FootprintLarge.html lunar duo tyvek footprint] - 6.5 oz
*trekking poles
*sunblock
*sunglasses
*gaiters
*camera
*maps/navigation
*biodegradable soap (bronner's?)
*hand sanitizer
*wipes
*stove & fuel
*cooking kit
*knife/multitool/utensils
*udigit
*first aid/emergency kit
**bandaids
**secondskin
**moleskin
**bodyglide
**pepto
**immodium AD
**painkillers
**aspirin
**epipen
**duct tape
**superglue
**needle + thread
**waterproof matches
**water treatment tablets
**bug bite treatment
**lighter
*compass
*emergency whistle
*medication
**inhalers
**pill
*clothing
**base layers
**swimming stuff
**rain shell (Zpacks?)
**socks
**underwear
**shorts
**gloves
*microtowel(s)
*sleeping pads
*sleeping bags/quilts (Jesse recommends rated down to 20 deg)
**liner?
**K to buy...some options:
***[http://www.enlightenedequipment.com/prodigy/ prodigy] 26 oz / $170
***[http://www.mountainlaureldesigns.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=42&products_id=133 spirit quilt] 21 oz / $215
***[http://www.backpacking.net/makegear/make-quilt/index.html DIY] 24 oz / way cheaper (primaloft available [http://www.seattlefabrics.com/insulations.html here])
****alternative: 2 layers of climashield apex. Primaloft sport wears faster, isn't as effective of an insulator (warmth to weight ratio). Primaloft Gold is great but really hard to find.
*hat/cap/beanie
*bug repellant
*itty bitty foam roller
*water filter
*water bottles/containers
*glasses/contacts stuff
*toothbrush
*paper towels
*zip lock bags
*headlamps, flashlights
*batteries
*watch
*ID, health insurance card, cash, debit card
*emergency contact info
*lip balm
*paper and pen
*nail clippers


===Food===
*coffee
*resupply treats!
**dried fruit
*energy bars/mix
*couscous
*ramen
*cheese
*cured meat - sausage/salami


== Sample Gear Lists ==
== Sample Gear Lists ==
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*[https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KCX3i77MwBNLJzoUTddInonDAwapoq8Xk7mGPC6zsto/edit#gid=206378109 14 lbs base weight]
*[https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KCX3i77MwBNLJzoUTddInonDAwapoq8Xk7mGPC6zsto/edit#gid=206378109 14 lbs base weight]
*[https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FRDloONhCii9rF-Tuw8k9cNp-24tdIG7tcf6S418rF0/pubhtml 20 lb base weight]
*[https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FRDloONhCii9rF-Tuw8k9cNp-24tdIG7tcf6S418rF0/pubhtml 20 lb base weight]
== Shakedown Notes ==
=== Krystle: Timberline Trail ===
*Tent: Not a huge fan. Did poorly in the wind (flapping around a LOT, wind moving right through the tent). Spaciousness is nice but the big footprint is a tradeoff (finding a good tent pad, carrying a bigger groundcloth). Trade for or buy smaller tent, save the weight.
**Lost a tent stake. Always carry an extra or two.
**Cowboy camping is fun, do this when possible.
*Vivobarefoot Breatho Trail shoes make good crossing and alternate shoes. Bad for walking through sand/ash (especially when hot). Socks got full of sand, soles got painfully hot.
*Get better socks, buy several pairs of the same for easy interchangeability.
*Altras were great. Only got a hot spot on the ball of my right foot when socks were damp and I was going uphill. Did not develop into a blister - might be able to toughen with training. Treat this pre-emptively with BodyGlide.
*Dirty Girl gaiters were great. Kept so much debris out of my shoes.
*Uphill technique: Short steps, keeping ankles loose (think of feet hanging loosely on hinges) helped a lot with uphill stamina.
*Handerchief/microtowel was super handy. Kept my hair out of my face, kept sun off my hair, wiped sweat off my face, dried my feet after a stream crossing, good for cleaning my legs and my dishes, etc.
*2 lbs of food per day was sufficient. Could probably bring it down to 1.5 with good calorie management.
**sour patch watermelons are amazing, surprisingly
**crystal light or other sweet mixes for water are great, especially if mixing with liquor (maybe lemonade?)
**bring whiskey
**bring dark chocolate
**freeze dried ice cream sandwiches were an incredible (non melting) treat
**mountain house lasagna and beef stroganoff mountain houses were decent
**I wish I'd brought more crackers and cheese
***oregono ritz crackers tasted amazing
*Tea tree oil & mint toothpicks - wonderful luxury item. Freshens breath, substitute for floss, biodegradable
*2 liters of water in the heat was just enough with the intense heat and frequent water sources. Stick with 3 just in case?
*Not sold on the Sawyer mini. Slower than the regular Sawyer. Benefit of weight saved doesn't seem huge.
*Definitely need lighter, more compact sleeping pad & bag.
*Bring head net. Bugs really do love my blood. DEET was very handy but would rather avoid toxicity if possible.
*Need better GPS, phone dies too quickly.
*Trekking poles are a must for stream crossings.
*Stuffing makes good appetizer and filler for when you put too much water in your hot food.
*I need more sunblock than I think I do, especially the backs of my shoulders.
*Hiking in shorts is great. One pair in particular was perfect. Only drawback is more scraping in rocks.
*Swimming in lakes is, indeed, very refreshing and uplifting.
===Aaron: Manistee River / NCT Loop (2015/7/10) ===
Since there's a bunch of my kit I'm still waiting on, this was mostly a dry run in terms of food & mileage. Walked ~24 miles in 2 days with a pack that was probably about the right weight (maybe 3-5lbs heavy once I reduce shelter/sleep gear?).
* Couscous! Use spice packs for variety. Use coconut oil for stable/tasty fat.
* Spice pack ideas (measure more carefully and de-bug at home):
** Oregano, thyme, garlic powder, cayenne, salt, pepper, sundried tomato.
** Paprika, turmeric, garlic powder, salt, pepper, sundried tomato.
** Ichimi pepper, miso (dried??), bonito, kombu, ginger, sugar, garlic powder, pepper.
** ??? (aim for seven of these).
* I need to calculate better food quantities. I tend to carry 2x food I need...
* ~4oz MSR fuel canisters were good for boiling water ~6-7 times.
* Whole Foods sundried tomatoes were *awesome* chopped and steamed w couscous or pasta.
* Instant coffee (even the little starbucks sleeves) just isn't worth it. I'm going off it on the trail.
* Chia pudding (w/ or w/out oats) should be a great breakfast that prepares overnight in a jar. Check out mason "freezer jars" (they're lightweight and plastic w screw tops) that can also double as secondary food prep/eating vessels. Season w powdered dairy, sugar, dried fruit.
* Sawyer mini is slow, but fine. Might go w just aquamira and sometimes unfiltered water for JMT.
=== Krystle: Goat Rocks ===
*Tested mac & cheese and tortellini recipes, a little bit of fine tuning needed for water amounts but taste is good.
*Swapped mac & cheese recipe for Velveeta cheese packets, tested at home before sending in resupply.
*Fuel use
**Used 0.7 oz fuel for 2 meals (4 servings)
**Used 0.4 oz fuel for mac & cheese testing at home
**This suggest a 4 oz fuel canister might last for 10 2-serving meals (!)
*Used around 1 L water at camp (cooking, cleaning, brushing teeth)
*Borah bug bivy was awesome
*Practiced tarp setup, need to do a little more research/practice on this
*2000 calories per day was more than enough
*Learned to keep the day's snacks outside the canister, more easily accessible
*Zlite is totally comfy & warm enough for me, surprisingly; if anything I can fold in half as a torso pad for extra comfort & insulation and use pack for feet
*The HammockGear quilt is amazing, amazing, #OMGIloveit
**Being able to close it around just my feet is wonderful
**Being able to snap it around my neck is wonderful
**Being able to use it as a blanket around camp is wonderful
*Darn tough socks were great, should still get one pair of liners just in case
*Bringing backwash syringe is probably a good idea for water filter, sandy mountain streams really muddy it up
*I very much so wished I had remembered to bring whiskey
*Feet get grossly dusty in the Altras, but otherwise they are awesome
*Sahara sun cap was a great addition to my gear
*Pack was great
*GoLite pants are a nope, the zippered pocket on the butt gave me a hotspot with the hip strap, why do they do this? Otherwise they'd be perfect....Back to leggings, unless I can find simple hiking pants
*ExOfficio sun/insect shirt was an ideal layer, and minimally stinky (did not get to test bugproofness)

Latest revision as of 20:36, 10 August 2015

Gear[edit]


Sample Gear Lists[edit]

Shakedown Notes[edit]

Krystle: Timberline Trail[edit]

  • Tent: Not a huge fan. Did poorly in the wind (flapping around a LOT, wind moving right through the tent). Spaciousness is nice but the big footprint is a tradeoff (finding a good tent pad, carrying a bigger groundcloth). Trade for or buy smaller tent, save the weight.
    • Lost a tent stake. Always carry an extra or two.
    • Cowboy camping is fun, do this when possible.
  • Vivobarefoot Breatho Trail shoes make good crossing and alternate shoes. Bad for walking through sand/ash (especially when hot). Socks got full of sand, soles got painfully hot.
  • Get better socks, buy several pairs of the same for easy interchangeability.
  • Altras were great. Only got a hot spot on the ball of my right foot when socks were damp and I was going uphill. Did not develop into a blister - might be able to toughen with training. Treat this pre-emptively with BodyGlide.
  • Dirty Girl gaiters were great. Kept so much debris out of my shoes.
  • Uphill technique: Short steps, keeping ankles loose (think of feet hanging loosely on hinges) helped a lot with uphill stamina.
  • Handerchief/microtowel was super handy. Kept my hair out of my face, kept sun off my hair, wiped sweat off my face, dried my feet after a stream crossing, good for cleaning my legs and my dishes, etc.
  • 2 lbs of food per day was sufficient. Could probably bring it down to 1.5 with good calorie management.
    • sour patch watermelons are amazing, surprisingly
    • crystal light or other sweet mixes for water are great, especially if mixing with liquor (maybe lemonade?)
    • bring whiskey
    • bring dark chocolate
    • freeze dried ice cream sandwiches were an incredible (non melting) treat
    • mountain house lasagna and beef stroganoff mountain houses were decent
    • I wish I'd brought more crackers and cheese
      • oregono ritz crackers tasted amazing
  • Tea tree oil & mint toothpicks - wonderful luxury item. Freshens breath, substitute for floss, biodegradable
  • 2 liters of water in the heat was just enough with the intense heat and frequent water sources. Stick with 3 just in case?
  • Not sold on the Sawyer mini. Slower than the regular Sawyer. Benefit of weight saved doesn't seem huge.
  • Definitely need lighter, more compact sleeping pad & bag.
  • Bring head net. Bugs really do love my blood. DEET was very handy but would rather avoid toxicity if possible.
  • Need better GPS, phone dies too quickly.
  • Trekking poles are a must for stream crossings.
  • Stuffing makes good appetizer and filler for when you put too much water in your hot food.
  • I need more sunblock than I think I do, especially the backs of my shoulders.
  • Hiking in shorts is great. One pair in particular was perfect. Only drawback is more scraping in rocks.
  • Swimming in lakes is, indeed, very refreshing and uplifting.

Aaron: Manistee River / NCT Loop (2015/7/10)[edit]

Since there's a bunch of my kit I'm still waiting on, this was mostly a dry run in terms of food & mileage. Walked ~24 miles in 2 days with a pack that was probably about the right weight (maybe 3-5lbs heavy once I reduce shelter/sleep gear?).

  • Couscous! Use spice packs for variety. Use coconut oil for stable/tasty fat.
  • Spice pack ideas (measure more carefully and de-bug at home):
    • Oregano, thyme, garlic powder, cayenne, salt, pepper, sundried tomato.
    • Paprika, turmeric, garlic powder, salt, pepper, sundried tomato.
    • Ichimi pepper, miso (dried??), bonito, kombu, ginger, sugar, garlic powder, pepper.
    • ??? (aim for seven of these).
  • I need to calculate better food quantities. I tend to carry 2x food I need...
  • ~4oz MSR fuel canisters were good for boiling water ~6-7 times.
  • Whole Foods sundried tomatoes were *awesome* chopped and steamed w couscous or pasta.
  • Instant coffee (even the little starbucks sleeves) just isn't worth it. I'm going off it on the trail.
  • Chia pudding (w/ or w/out oats) should be a great breakfast that prepares overnight in a jar. Check out mason "freezer jars" (they're lightweight and plastic w screw tops) that can also double as secondary food prep/eating vessels. Season w powdered dairy, sugar, dried fruit.
  • Sawyer mini is slow, but fine. Might go w just aquamira and sometimes unfiltered water for JMT.


Krystle: Goat Rocks[edit]

  • Tested mac & cheese and tortellini recipes, a little bit of fine tuning needed for water amounts but taste is good.
  • Swapped mac & cheese recipe for Velveeta cheese packets, tested at home before sending in resupply.
  • Fuel use
    • Used 0.7 oz fuel for 2 meals (4 servings)
    • Used 0.4 oz fuel for mac & cheese testing at home
    • This suggest a 4 oz fuel canister might last for 10 2-serving meals (!)
  • Used around 1 L water at camp (cooking, cleaning, brushing teeth)
  • Borah bug bivy was awesome
  • Practiced tarp setup, need to do a little more research/practice on this
  • 2000 calories per day was more than enough
  • Learned to keep the day's snacks outside the canister, more easily accessible
  • Zlite is totally comfy & warm enough for me, surprisingly; if anything I can fold in half as a torso pad for extra comfort & insulation and use pack for feet
  • The HammockGear quilt is amazing, amazing, #OMGIloveit
    • Being able to close it around just my feet is wonderful
    • Being able to snap it around my neck is wonderful
    • Being able to use it as a blanket around camp is wonderful
  • Darn tough socks were great, should still get one pair of liners just in case
  • Bringing backwash syringe is probably a good idea for water filter, sandy mountain streams really muddy it up
  • I very much so wished I had remembered to bring whiskey
  • Feet get grossly dusty in the Altras, but otherwise they are awesome
  • Sahara sun cap was a great addition to my gear
  • Pack was great
  • GoLite pants are a nope, the zippered pocket on the butt gave me a hotspot with the hip strap, why do they do this? Otherwise they'd be perfect....Back to leggings, unless I can find simple hiking pants
  • ExOfficio sun/insect shirt was an ideal layer, and minimally stinky (did not get to test bugproofness)