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Hola Giancarlo.Me parece giaenl que al no compartir mi posicif3n lo expreses con fundamentos.Te respondo un par de cosas. Primero, no creo que sea una locura ir a la CIDH. Si bien no es regular que Personas Jureddicas puedan acudir a la Corte, bfCf3mo ased entonces podreda uno hacer valer el derecho a la autonomeda universitaria? bfO es que es algo que este1 pintado en la Constitucif3n, y que no tienen ningfan efecto? Dudo demasiado que sea lo segundo. Lo cierto es que, ased como algunos derechos laborales, existen derechos no individuales, y tal vez este sea el caso. Tal vez no pueda ir la PUCP como Persona Jureddica, bfPero y los miembros de la comunidad universitaria PUCP? bfNo tendredamos entonces como defendernos ante un escenario? Imagina que el Estado peruano haya vulnerado manifiestamente este derecho, afectando ased a los miembros de la comunidad universitaria. bfNo tendredamos en ese caso como hacer valer este derecho que ademe1s este1 plasmado en la propia Constitucif3n? No digo que esta posicif3n no sea controversial, sin duda es debatible, pero de otro modo no encontrareda cf3mo poder hacer valer un derecho como es el de la autonomeda universitaria en instancias internacionales. Creo que el caso resulta interesante, y no conozco de uno similar, pero de verdad es que me parecereda de locos afirmar que no hay manera de hacer valer este derecho. Mi teoreda es que es un derecho de la Persona Jureddica, pero tambie9n es un derecho colectivo. Esto es lo que definire1 la Corte, me parece. Lo segundo es simplemente decirte que, segfan como veo yo las cosas, es difedcil que un tema sea 100% civil, o 100% cualquier cosa. Para mi regularmente ningfan problema se subsume en un espectro tan reducido como lo es una rama del derecho en especedfico. Muchas veces los problemas tienen explicaciones que involucran otras ramas, o incluso algunas extra-legales (poledticas, econf3micas, sociolf3gicas, etc.). En este caso, no me parece que sea irrelevante el nacimiento en el ordenamiento jureddico peruano del derecho a la autonomeda universitaria. Es me1s, me parece un tema vital y central, y por eso creo que el tema tiene claramente un trasfondo constitucional. Sin duda este derecho tiene ledmites, y no pretendere9 establecer su contenido escencial , pero sed me parece que este derecho constitucional colisiona con lo que pretende el Arzobispado. El testamento de Riva-Agfcero (y esta parte no ha sido eliminada) nos otorga los bienes en propiedad. bfCf3mo ased entonces se pretende que un ente externo controle lo que sucede y no sucede con los bienes que son de propiedad de una institucif3n que es. segfan la Constitucif3n, autf3noma administrativa y econf3micamente? Me parece dicha pretensif3n y lo que dice el artedculo 18 de la Constitucif3n no pueden coexistir. En fin, muchas gracias por tu comentario. Creo que puntos de vista como el tuyo aportan mucho al debate, que es la idea de este tipo de artedculos. Nadie tiene la verdad de las cosas. Se trata de discutir y proponer, intercambiar informacif3n para que cada quien llegue a una conclusif3n propia. Esa es mi intencif3n con este artedculo. Saludos.
The '''Things to Buy''' sections contains things we need and do not have yet. The '''Things We're Bringing''' is the place to put stuff you want to bring. Feel free to move something from things to buy to things to bring and put your name next to it so we know someone has that. You can also add something not already on the list--this can be ingredients, toys, cooked dishes, treats for <strike>Lola</strike>  [[Mika]], or anything else you think up. Things to cook is a good place to write suggestions for dinner although there is a plan to create a [[10 plagues|10 plauges theme meal]] so it might be good to put ideas there.
 
It'd be really nice if you add your name under '''People''' if you are planning on attending, so we have an idea of how big to make dinner.
 
No dress code, although yarmulke encouraged.
 
== Location ==
 
This year we're not going to host at the [[Acetarium]] as we have in previous years. Instead, we're going to host at the '''The Bernie-tarium'''which is located right near Porter Square just off Massachusetts Avenue:
 
:5 Exeter Park, Cambridge, MA [http://g.co/maps/39a3s]
 
== Things to Buy ==
 
* '''Everybody please bring 5 cups of wine per person (a bit less than 1 bottle). Extra wine is always a bonus!'''
* Matzot!
* Yams, beets
* Horseradish.  Parsley. (Mika)
* Romaine lettuces
* <font color="#FF0000">BLOOD</font> Orange (Mika)
 
== Things We're Bringing ==
 
* Matzoh (1-2 boxes) (Acetarium)
* Disposable plates and cups (bemasc)
 
Noah has bought:
 
*4 packages of Matzoh Meal
*2 packages of Matzoh Cake Meal
*2 packages of Matzoh Ball Mix
*1 package of Potato Starch
*2 boxes of Matzoh
*2 cans of Maccaroons
*2 bottles of Kosher Wine
*1.5 Litres of Manny
 
== Things to Cook ==
 
Can you make the things on this list fit into the [[10 plagues|10 plagues theme meal]]?
 
* Bitter Melon chips?
* Matzoh Ball Soup
* Vegan Everything Salad
* Beets
* fresh horseraddish
* [http://veganyumyum.com/2008/07/miniature-napoleons-with-eggplant-creme/ Eggplant Neopolitans]
* [[10 plagues]]?
* Roasted eggs (Mika)
 
add stuff here!
 
== Things to Read ==
 
* [http://velveteenrabbi.com/2006-Haggadah.pdf The Velveteen Rabbi's Haggadah for Passover] (definitely)
* [http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1580231365/002-7276126-1226444?v=glance&n=283155 The Women's Seder Sourcebook: Rituals and Readings for Use at the Passover Seder] (maybe?)
* [http://www.bartneck.de/publications/2008/exploreAbuseRobots/ Exploring the abuse of robots] (extremely unlikely)
* [http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/low_concept/2006/04/the_twominute_haggadah.html The Two-Minute Haggadah] (probably not, but why not?)
 
== Margin Notes and Other Commentary on the Things to Read ==
 
Page 24 of the velveteenrabbi Haggadah has "Arov" translated as "insect swarms". This is clearly too similar to Locusts. God would never have made the mistake of creating two similar plagues. That would be like wearing clashing colors to a fashion show. Therefore I propose that "Arov" be retranslated as "Horde of Dragons" as that fits with the theme of both of the common translations, "swarm" and "beasts".
 
All references to "lamb shank" shall be henceforth stricken from the record and replaced with "yam shank". It's like a makeshift prison weapon made out of sweet potato.
 
Eliyahu Hanavi (Elijah the Prophet) may alternately be called Eliyahu Anavim (Elijah the Grapes).
 
The optional sixth, seventh, and eighth cups of wine that the book does not mention are not actually optional. Only godless heathens leave them out of this most sacred ceremony.
 
"The Haroset Song" on page 33 is not an actual Passover song. They just made that one up.
 
== People ==
# [[Noah]]
# Ben + Sarah
# [[Mika]] - [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nyancat Nyan Cat]
# [[Mako]]
# [http://wiki.mako.cc/Mayo Mayo Fuster] - [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marrano Marrana] or/and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xueta Xueta]  
# Alba Fuster - [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marrano Marrana] and/or [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xueta Xueta] (Fusters will be arriving late, coming from Toronto).
# [http://wiki.mako.cc/Molly_de_Blanc Molly]
# [[Bernie Innocenti]]
# Damien, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epikoros_(Judaism) apikoros]
# [http://wiki.mako.cc/User:Fiendish Avi] - [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priestly_Blessing#Procedure Vulcan]
# May
# Rabbi Samuel Klein
# Michael Stone
# Danny (dpic)
# Kat
# Shauna
# Matt Ritter
#[http://stefan.unterhauser.name/contact dogi]
# Destra & Alex
# "
# Malu & Alex
# "
# Una
 
== Schedule ==
 
Shopping in Brookline (mon-thurs):  for fun!
 
edit below!
 
April 13
# Final cooking at Noah SJ Michael House ''(17:30-19:30)''
# Hagada & reclining (back and to the left) ''(20:00-21:30)''
# Meal ''(21:30-22:30)''
# Last 2 cups & reclining (back and to the right) & song and dance?! ''(22:30-00:00)''
# Afikoman!
 
== Past Years ==
 
* [[Seder 2010]]
* [[Seder 2011]]

Latest revision as of 18:07, 1 May 2012

The Things to Buy sections contains things we need and do not have yet. The Things We're Bringing is the place to put stuff you want to bring. Feel free to move something from things to buy to things to bring and put your name next to it so we know someone has that. You can also add something not already on the list--this can be ingredients, toys, cooked dishes, treats for Lola Mika, or anything else you think up. Things to cook is a good place to write suggestions for dinner although there is a plan to create a 10 plauges theme meal so it might be good to put ideas there.

It'd be really nice if you add your name under People if you are planning on attending, so we have an idea of how big to make dinner.

No dress code, although yarmulke encouraged.

Location

This year we're not going to host at the Acetarium as we have in previous years. Instead, we're going to host at the The Bernie-tariumwhich is located right near Porter Square just off Massachusetts Avenue:

5 Exeter Park, Cambridge, MA [1]

Things to Buy

  • Everybody please bring 5 cups of wine per person (a bit less than 1 bottle). Extra wine is always a bonus!
  • Matzot!
  • Yams, beets
  • Horseradish. Parsley. (Mika)
  • Romaine lettuces
  • BLOOD Orange (Mika)

Things We're Bringing

  • Matzoh (1-2 boxes) (Acetarium)
  • Disposable plates and cups (bemasc)

Noah has bought:

  • 4 packages of Matzoh Meal
  • 2 packages of Matzoh Cake Meal
  • 2 packages of Matzoh Ball Mix
  • 1 package of Potato Starch
  • 2 boxes of Matzoh
  • 2 cans of Maccaroons
  • 2 bottles of Kosher Wine
  • 1.5 Litres of Manny

Things to Cook

Can you make the things on this list fit into the 10 plagues theme meal?

add stuff here!

Things to Read

Margin Notes and Other Commentary on the Things to Read

Page 24 of the velveteenrabbi Haggadah has "Arov" translated as "insect swarms". This is clearly too similar to Locusts. God would never have made the mistake of creating two similar plagues. That would be like wearing clashing colors to a fashion show. Therefore I propose that "Arov" be retranslated as "Horde of Dragons" as that fits with the theme of both of the common translations, "swarm" and "beasts".

All references to "lamb shank" shall be henceforth stricken from the record and replaced with "yam shank". It's like a makeshift prison weapon made out of sweet potato.

Eliyahu Hanavi (Elijah the Prophet) may alternately be called Eliyahu Anavim (Elijah the Grapes).

The optional sixth, seventh, and eighth cups of wine that the book does not mention are not actually optional. Only godless heathens leave them out of this most sacred ceremony.

"The Haroset Song" on page 33 is not an actual Passover song. They just made that one up.

People

  1. Noah
  2. Ben + Sarah
  3. Mika - Nyan Cat
  4. Mako
  5. Mayo Fuster - Marrana or/and Xueta
  6. Alba Fuster - Marrana and/or Xueta (Fusters will be arriving late, coming from Toronto).
  7. Molly
  8. Bernie Innocenti
  9. Damien, apikoros
  10. Avi - Vulcan
  11. May
  12. Rabbi Samuel Klein
  13. Michael Stone
  14. Danny (dpic)
  15. Kat
  16. Shauna
  17. Matt Ritter
  18. dogi
  19. Destra & Alex
  20. "
  21. Malu & Alex
  22. "
  23. Una

Schedule

Shopping in Brookline (mon-thurs): for fun!

edit below!

April 13

  1. Final cooking at Noah SJ Michael House (17:30-19:30)
  2. Hagada & reclining (back and to the left) (20:00-21:30)
  3. Meal (21:30-22:30)
  4. Last 2 cups & reclining (back and to the right) & song and dance?! (22:30-00:00)
  5. Afikoman!

Past Years